Curse

Balky · Nov 17, 2008, 10:22 PM // 22:22

Couple of reasons Tyla, 1) Can`t be bothered to get More Imperial Elite Armour to swop them out. 2) They enable me to bring my shadow arts up to lvl 10, which is handy for the 30hp heal on a crit and the 7 sec daze on Beguiling if i equip it and go hunting casters ( or anyone else i bounce up to ) with my silencing`s.

Yeah i know, " conventional wisdom says, 2 supes is bad " well i say bollocks to conventional wisdom....according to that i can`t go toe to toe with a 800hp warr with 100 armour.......yet i do it all the time lol

Tyla · Nov 17, 2008, 10:25 PM // 22:25

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Originally Posted by Balky

Couple of reasons Tyla, 1) Can`t be bothered to get More Imperial Elite Armour to swop them out.

Ever heard of these nifty things called "PvP Characters"?

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2) They enable me to bring my shadow arts up to lvl 10, which is handy for the 30hp heal on a crit and the 7 sec daze on Beguiling if i equip it and go hunting casters ( or anyone else i bounce up to ) with my silencing`s.

So you kill yourself by reducing your survivability heavily?

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Yeah i know, " conventional wisdom says, 2 supes is bad " well i say bollocks to conventional wisdom....according to that i can`t go toe to toe with a 800hp warr with 100 armour.......yet i do it all the time lol

Nice argument.

Balky · Nov 17, 2008, 10:30 PM // 22:30

Actually iv`e found i crit so much i heal myself constantly lol, and i don`t want a pvp only char, i do swop my mask out though if i go ranger as its +4 DM, and no point if i`m using a bow.

Tyla · Nov 17, 2008, 10:54 PM // 22:54

I can't believe I'm actually replying to that with even the most useless post here.

X Cytherea X · Nov 17, 2008, 11:00 PM // 23:00

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Originally Posted by various scrubs

That bar is pretty terrible.

dont use that build. no ias and its almost all offense.

That's just bad.........................................

lol
lalala12charslalala

riiight, so you just ignore the fact that none of the builds posted here can do what that build does (kill targets in rapid succession with literally no downtime, while stylishly shadowstepping back and forth very ninja-like). the only requirement is that you must be sure AP will trigger.

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

I had fun with this:

good lord that's awful.

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Originally Posted by Balky

Build i usually use is, Critical Eye, Critical Defences, Way of Perfection

Unsuspecting Strike, Wild Blow, Critical Strike, Mobeius or Beguiling Haze for elite

replace unsuspecting with golden fox. you mean wild strike. if you really want to run a superior rune, only use 1. or go double major. you can replace the rune without changing your armor by double clicking on it then clicking on the armor part.

Krill · Nov 17, 2008, 11:00 PM // 23:00

[build=OwFi0xjMtUowkwY8hwUYgVMBB]
[build=OwFjMxd6ISmFGfIMKM8P8VTQXFA]
[build=Owpkoyd6I+JkAEx3VoCD/DCG3GuD]
[build=OwZjggd74SCQEfJMKM8PxZaVdDA]
[build=OwFj4hd8oSAQ9PXhGf8PJQjP0ZA]
[build=OwZjgMecHTnDKMJMGf8PJQvZDMA]

Go go gadget gank. FGJ still works "ok" for BB sin in AB.

Super Igor · Nov 17, 2008, 11:18 PM // 23:18

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

riiight, so you just ignore the fact that none of the builds posted here can do what that build does (kill targets in rapid succession with literally no downtime, while stylishly shadowstepping back and forth very ninja-like). the only requirement is that you must be sure AP will trigger.

No, that bar is bad.

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good lord that's awful.

No it isnt, at least better than stuff you post.

Thanks for proving that you have never played anything aside of ra though.

Deadly arts sins can allow high att investment in their secondary attribute, assuming its never bad to have a self heal in ab pugs woh makes a good one. Damage is decent - standard assacaster, has speedboost, condition removal, self heal. Everything you need in AB so I dont see how its bad.

Also, adamptation from a meta hero battles capper mkay.

Tyla · Nov 18, 2008, 12:26 AM // 00:26

HAHA CYTHEREA DID A FUNNY - Scrubs calling other people scrubs is funny. Especially since you think that Sinsplit was tactical.

Oh, and Assassins' Promise is bad in PvP. Spikes aren't always going to go through, especially 'Sin spikes.

petrorabbit · Nov 18, 2008, 01:19 AM // 01:19

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Originally Posted by Tyla

HAHA CYTHEREA DID A FUNNY - Scrubs calling other people scrubs is funny. Especially since you think that Sinsplit was tactical.

Oh, and Assassins' Promise is bad in PvP. Spikes aren't always going to go through, especially 'Sin spikes.

Oh noes, Tyla has been trolled!

Luminarus · Nov 18, 2008, 01:26 AM // 01:26

I luv versing assassins promise builds... 1 interupt. 1 Block... 1 hex removal and they are useless for 45 seconds... hell most of the time against a player the builds dont even work.

I run this bar in AB... its fun, it uses my favourite elite AoD... and was brilliant before they stuffed shadowsteps.. still fun and works coz its AB.

[Aura of Displacement][Mark of Instability][Golden Phoenix Strike][Twisting Fangs][Falling Lotus Strike][Blades of Steel][Dash][Optional]. Good timing, and placement of AoD is quite useful, sometimes better then a self heal. If you anchor urself at the monk shrine, then you can get back there real easy, etc. Also optional is for a self heal. I like heart of shadow. When you get a melee train on you heart of shadow, then end AoD... quite fun.

Bobby2 · Nov 18, 2008, 01:47 AM // 01:47

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Originally Posted by Balky

MY A/R build ( though i don`t tend to use R skills unless i go interrupt ) i run supe runes of CS and DM + mask , nightstalkers insig on guise and legs giving 85 armour on those locations while attacking, also clarity and purity runes, daggers i switch between 20/20 and silencing
DM 14 ( with runes )
CS 14 ( with Runes )
SA 10
where you put the last point is up to you

...leaving you with a mighteh 405 Health. Mebbe less.

Fiiiiix'd.

All kinds of fail. Too much to bother with, tbfh. Though; thanks for making instagib possible again, I wish there were more people like you in AB.

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

good lord that's better than what I posted.

Moar fix'ded.

Brave Moriz is Brave but build lacks KDlock and/or snare (which screwed me over some when I ran it).

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Originally Posted by Luminarus

I luv versing assassins promise builds... 1 interupt. 1 Block... 1 hex removal and they are useless for 45 seconds... hell most of the time against a player the builds dont even work.

It's almost as funny as watching a Sin cast CritDef, than casually kiting it off. Almost.

MMSDome · Nov 18, 2008, 02:33 AM // 02:33

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Originally Posted by Tyla

'Sins are pretty weak in PvP for the most part, but...

I hope you were joking when you typed this because sins are very strong in PvP, are you sure you are thinking of the right class?

moriz · Nov 18, 2008, 03:01 AM // 03:01

assassins are only strong in pvp arena that features a) lots of open spaces and movement and b) dumb players.

that basically limits it down to two arenas: alliance battles (aka assassin battles), which features both; and hero battles, which features dumb AI substituting for dumb players, and lots of movement running between shrines.

in every other arena, they are weak purely for the fact that there are better characters you can run in that spot.

Stealth Bomberman · Nov 18, 2008, 05:42 AM // 05:42

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Originally Posted by moriz

assassins are only strong in pvp arena that features a) lots of open spaces and movement and b) dumb players.

that basically limits it down to two arenas: alliance battles (aka assassin battles), which features both; and hero battles, which features dumb AI substituting for dumb players, and lots of movement running between shrines.

in every other arena, they are weak purely for the fact that there are better characters you can run in that spot.

you need to watch more GvG's. alot of guilds are sqeezing in shatter sins nowadays. why? pressure/enchant loss/good e-management.

as for HA i deem that area anti-sin in most cases.

X Cytherea X · Nov 18, 2008, 09:10 AM // 09:10

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Deadly arts sins can allow high att investment in their secondary attribute, assuming its never bad to have a self heal in ab pugs woh makes a good one. Damage is decent - standard assacaster, has speedboost, condition removal, self heal. Everything you need in AB so I dont see how its bad.

its damage blows. nonexistent e-management. and it literally looks dumb in action, not stylish at all. the one i posted is much better.

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Originally Posted by more scrubs

Oh, and Assassins' Promise is bad in PvP. Spikes aren't always going to go through, especially 'Sin spikes.

I luv versing assassins promise builds... 1 interupt. 1 Block... 1 hex removal and they are useless for 45 seconds... hell most of the time against a player the builds dont even work.

that's why you hit shrines with nobody around. must everything be spelled out for you.

Unreal Havoc · Nov 18, 2008, 10:32 AM // 10:32

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Originally Posted by Super Igor

I had fun with this:
[build prof=a/mo box dead=12+1+1 heal=12][deadly paradox][dancing daggers][entangling asp][signet of toxic shock][augury of death][word of healing][mending touch][dash][/build]

Lol, I used to run that in AB back before Deadly Paradox got nerfed, I used to run Return over Dash though for instant teleport to Monk to remove Daze.

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

just watch this video okay

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2km4JA32joE

you're welcome

That is painfully slow, and pretty much useless against players that are half decent bar the odd spike against a poor caster who doesn't know how to play. Not only is it vulnerable against melee and caster counters but also against the most basic of all things, healing! If you want to cap shrines solo (god knows why you aren't with your team in AB, and if you are you most certainly don't need to run this) take a Nuker.

Super Igor · Nov 18, 2008, 11:15 AM // 11:15

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

its damage blows. nonexistent e-management. and it literally looks dumb in action, not stylish at all. the one i posted is much better.

What you have posted isnt better and is no way "stylish". LOL an AP sin in pvp killing the dummies outside isle of nameless oshi what a skiel you can kill the dummies.

AP sins are bad in pvp, first you might not kill you target, second ap can be removed and you end up siting there waiting for your shadowstep to recharge.

And no, my build doesnt look dumb, you have ossum dagger throwing action and can run around staying alive swiftly showing off your aweasome armor and weapons wasting time of noobs who die trying to catch you. Thats what AB is for amirite? And you can do the damage.

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that's why you hit shrines with nobody around. must everything be spelled out for you.

Go hit a shrine with elite eles with nobody around...maybe a minion master passing by would find your corpse usefull.

moriz · Nov 18, 2008, 03:57 PM // 15:57

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Originally Posted by Stealth Bomberman

you need to watch more GvG's. alot of guilds are sqeezing in shatter sins nowadays. why? pressure/enchant loss/good e-management.

as for HA i deem that area anti-sin in most cases.

very unlikely, since most gvg teams are still in love with the WE warrior.

assassins are effectively dead in gvg. that's been true ever since they took out VoD and npc movement.

Krill · Nov 18, 2008, 04:11 PM // 16:11

@Super Igor

The paradox asscaster is only decent with Lyssa's Aura. You can run it with 12 in deadly arts and 12 in inspiration with ether feast as a self heal.

In general a lot of AB assassins get too defensive with their builds or just bring crap that doesn't work. We've all seen the generic gank builds a zillion times, but if you don't know what else to run stick to the proven and play smart without getting yourself in bad situations.

Tyla · Nov 18, 2008, 04:52 PM // 16:52

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

that's why you hit shrines with nobody around. must everything be spelled out for you.

You're still calling people scrubs? I'm still finding it funny. 'Sin fanboys... scrub.

Oh, and is it any use outside of hitting bad players or NPC's? I didn't need it to be spelt out. If so, your build is quite bad. Bars that can't do anything outside of hit NPC's and bad players (or should I say terribad instead?) constantly are... bad?

Oh, and I'll quote this for the lolz.

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Originally Posted by X Cytherea X

and sinsplit era was very tactical

Fail.

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Originally Posted by MMSDome

I hope you were joking when you typed this because sins are very strong in PvP, are you sure you are thinking of the right class?

I hope you were trolling when you typed this, because 'Sins are very bad in PvP. Are you thinking of the right class?